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11. Some Ideas for Further Investigation [Catastrophism & Ancient History Journal $]
... If Sieff should be right, Taharqa was already king in 710. We may conclude that we can, in that case, tolerate a difference of only 3 years for the reigns of the kings from Taharqa to Necho II. It seems that the appointment of Taharqa by his father had a connection with his Palestinian policy-- or should I write Assyrian policy? (3) Piankhy mentions a King Iuput in Thentremu and Taan and Osorkon in Bubastis.[12 Can't they be identified with Osorkon I, who probably ruled in Tanis and Bubastis?[13 His brother, the priest Iuput, who under Osorkon's father already seems to have played a political role,[14 can have been vassal king in Tanis. We know that Iuput the priest brought a number of mummies of kings to a safer hiding place. As that of Ramses II belonged among that number, Iuput (and Osorkon) have to be dated roughly after the reign of Ramses II. It is interesting that the contemporary Pharaoh Merneptah had to fight Libyan and other invaders during the time ...
12. Forum [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... From: SIS Chronology and Catastrophism Workshop 1986 No 1 (Jul 1986) Home¦ Issue Contents Forum Rejoinder from Lester J.Mitcham: Although I had hoped at this time to have a question dealing with the problems of the High-priests of Ptah at Memphis and the sequence of the 21st Dynasty kings at Tanis, it seems clear from David's answer to my partially related Question on the High-priests of Amun at Thebes (WORKSHOP 6:2, p.21), that further discussions are required in that area. I will begin by repeating the main part of my Question- assessing the overall time placement of the 21st Priestly Dynasty at Thebes in relationship to the High-priests of Amun (at Thebes) under Dynasties 22 and 23. Essentially David's answer conveys the idea of two lines of HPA- one predominately titular and tied to the Libyan royal line, whilst on the other hand an administrative line related to the 21st Dynasty functioned at Thebes. However, my Question was posed because it appeared that the Rohl/James revision was likely to end up with two lines of HPA ...
13. Centuries of Darkness? - the reviewers reviewed [SIS C&C Review $]
... .. the chapters dealing successively with the Central Mediterranean, the Balkans, the Aegean, Asia Minor, Cyprus, and Syria-Palestine do indeed appear to establish a prima facie case for an overstretch of chronology covering the period of the 'Dark Ages'." But, as James et al. themselves note, all depends on whether the necessary compaction of Egyptian chronology (mostly in the Third Intermediate Period) can be achieved, and here Dodson is skeptical. He cites only one piece of 'evidence'- some recent fieldwork on the Tanis tomb complex- against the overlapping of the 21st and 22nd Dynasties. But Dodson is in favour of the idea of some small chronological adjustments, e.g. a reduction in the dates for Ramesses II of about 50 years (publication forthcoming). The rather longer review of Centuries of Darkness which appears in the editorial section of the same issue of PEQ appears to be another case of the editor rectifying the omissions of his reviewer. G. Davies refers readers to other published reviews of the book, citing in particular radiocarbon evidence ...
14. Chapter XXVII: The Calendar and its Revision [Dawn of Astronomy (Book)] [Books]
... water sign, thereby bringing back the hypothetical relation between the name of the month and the sign, although, as we have seen, Thoth is no longer the flood month. Egyptologists declare that all, or at least part. of this change took place between the periods named; they are undoubtedly justified as regards a part. At one point in this interval we are fortunately supplied with some precise information. In the year 238 B.C. a famous decree was published, variously called the decree of Canopus and the decree of Tanis; since it was inscribed on a stone found there. It is perfectly clear that one of the functions of this decree was to change, or to approve an already made change in, the designation of the season or tetramene in which the inundation commenced, from Thoth to Pachons. Another function was to establish a fixed year; as we shall see presently. We must assume, then, that a vague year was in vogue prior to the decree. Now the decree tells us that at its date the heliacal rising ...
15. Amenophis, Osarsiph and Arzu. More on the Third Intermediate Period of Egypt [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... . More on the Third Intermediate Period of Egypt K. A. LEFLEM Sethos and Sethosis Manetho-Josephus confused the identities of Seti I (Sethos) and Seti II (Sethosis) by calling them both Aegyptus. It is clear, however, that this name originally refers to Seti II. His brother Armais (Amenmesse) should not be confused with the Hermeus associated with Sethos, who corresponds to Horemheb, contemporary of Seti I. The origin of the name Danaus is not known; it may have some connection with the city of Tanis, or possibly it could be a Hebrew loan-word meaning "judge", or, more accurately, warleader or chieftain. There remains to be identified the Sethos son of Amenophis "also called Ramesses", and the Sethos priest of "Vulcan" mentioned by Herodotus. Sethos called Ramesses can only be Seti II, son of Merenptah (Amenophis). According to the story of Manetho, he was placed with a "friend" of the pharaoh at the age of five, and no mention is made of his subsequent ...
16. Sethosis: the Seti II from the Kinglists? [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... Seti II's reign. Hornung finally located Amenmesse's reign before that of Seti II, in line with the inscription on the pylon of the Armant Temple where the cartouches of Merenptah hotep-hir-ma were firstly overwritten by the cartouches of Amenmesse but later by those of Seti II.(5) Also von Beckerath gives cogent reasons for the fact that Amenmesse was succeeded by Siptah. If the story of Manetho is meant to fit this context, Armais should rather be identified with Ramesses-Siptah, who became king with the help of Tawosret. Ramesses-Siptah reigned from Tanis in the Delta, whilst Amenmesse, reigning from Thebes, was probably only acknowledged in Upper Egypt and Nubia. However, Siptah wasn't a member of the royal Ramesside family at all. In a forthcoming article, "Isaiah and the Ramessides", I hope to outline the actual sequence in more detail, for this will be very important as far as the link between Dynasties XIX and XX and the identity of the Syrian usurper are concerned. Neither is Clapham right in saying that Amenmesse was the brother of Seti II. ...
17. A Note on the Location of Avaris [Kronos $]
... elusive to archaeologists even of the present time and is still a basically unsettled issue. The problem has occupied Egyptological thought and activity for more than half a century without a totally satisfactory resolution.(1) Informative material concerning Avaris has come down to us from the Jewish chronicler Josephus who, in turn, was quoting the words of the Egyptian priest Manetho.(2) Yet, for all that, modern scholarship appears steadfastly deadlocked in its ability to arrive at a definitive conclusion. (3) One group of scholars supports Tanis and another Khata 'na-Qantir as the site of the Hyksos capital.(4) Van Seters, however, has rightly pointed out that "the matter must be considered as more than an academic quibble. The location of Avaris has important implications for an understanding of the Hyksos rule. Unfortunately, while many scholars have debated the virtues of the evidence for a particular location, few have stopped to consider the historical implications of their identification."(5) These words were published almost a decade ago and Van Seters justly took ...
18. Society News [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... the postulation of a system of co-regencies for the period before TuLulti-Ninurta I, or b) that there was a second king Assuruballit circa 1030 who does not appear in the Kings' Lists. Neither proposition is at present attractive, although further research is needed before we can say with conviction that a solution must be looked for elsewhere. After a break for refreshments the area of discussion moved south to Egypt and the New Chronology of Rohl and James. For the meeting David Rohl had prepared plans of the Great Temple of Amun at Tanis and the tomb complex of the 21st and 22nd Dynasties within the enclosure wall of that temple. In combination with a series of slides taken at the site during a recent visit to the Delta, David put forward the detailed archaeological arguments for a reconstruction of the Third Intermediate Period based on the evidence that Osorkon II preceded Akheperre Psusennes of the 21st Dynasty. As a side issue to the discussion it was established beyond doubt that Velikovsky's reconstruction for the Late Period in Egypt was untenable and that Ramesses II, in the guise of ...
19. The 1989 ISIS/SIS Nile Cruise [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... since we had moored on the east bank at Aswan the night before. Baksheesh was required for the inevitable guides, who materialised as if out of the burning sand, but otherwise we had the place to ourselves and the wind. Although we had mostly all kept well during the cruise, the return to Cairo saw the majority smitten overnight, as with some Biblical plague. This was the event that David Rohl had most dreaded, for the final special trip arranged for our group into the Delta to visit Bubastis, ed-Daba and Tanis, would take a four hour coach ride. Most people managed the almost obligatory trip the previous day to Memphis, Saqqara, where we also viewed the Serapeum and a few of our group were privileged to have a sneak view of the tomb of the controversial Horemheb, and Giza, where only four of us managed to explore both King's and Queen's chamber in the Great Pyramid and Derek Shelley-Pearce was the only one to succumb to the entreaties of the camelmen and mount one of the flea-ridden beasts; but by the Delta trip ...
20. Were Abraham, Joseph, and Moses Located in the Old Kingdom? [Catastrophism & Ancient History Journal $]
... . He places Abraham in the middle of the First Dynasty. He then positions Joseph in the Third Dynasty and early Fourth Dynasty. Finally, he theorizes that Moses should be placed at the end of the Sixth Dynasty. Abraham One of the supports Fry uses to place Abraham in the First Dynasty is that Josephus claims Abraham taught the Egyptians mathematics and astronomy. That would necessitate Abraham's entry into the Egyptian Kingdom prior to the building of the pyramids. A second reason is that the Bible states that Hebron was built seven years before Tanis (Zoan). The Book of Jubilees states that Abraham lived during the time of Hebron's construction, and further Egyptian history mentions Tanis/ Zoan in the Old Kingdom. A third reason claims that the artifact found in the Royal Cemetery ofUr, called by archaeologists the "Ram in the Thicket," is indeed a very close parallel to the story in Genesis of Abraham's sacrificing Isaac. Fry has other small proofs for his conjecture, but an Australian scholar, Osgood, claims that the Four Kings of the East attacked Ein-Gedi ...
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