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61. THE BURNING OF TROY: PART THREE: WORKING OF THE MIND: CHAPTER TWENTY-ONE: JUPITER'S BANDS AND SATURN'S RINGS [Quantavolution Website]
... Quantavolution.Org E-MAIL: firstname.lastname@example.org TABLE OF CONTENTS THE BURNING OF TROY By Alfred de Grazia Part Three: Working of the Mind CHAPTER TWENTY-ONE JUPITER'S BANDS AND SATURN'S RINGS [1 With a mind to the present Pioneer explorations of the neighborhoods of planets Jupiter and Saturn, an article by Thomas Taylor (of Walworth)- published in the Classical Journal of 1819- ought to be reviewed. Taylor was a renowned Platonist and his article was entitled, "On the Coincidence between the Belts of the Planet Jupiter and the Fabulous Bonds of Jupiter the Demiurgus" [2. There, quoting passages of the neo-Platonist Proclus (c. 410-85 A. D.), On the Timaeus of Plato and On the Theology of Plato, Taylor points out "that Jupiter the Demiurgus is said by ancient theologists to have put his father Saturn in chains, and also to have surrounded himself with bonds; and that the moderns have found the body of the planet Jupiter to be surrounded by several substances resembling belts or bands, and likewise that there is the faint resemblance ...
62. In the Beginning -- A Review [The Velikovskian $]
... behind every veil, till our eye can distinguish no more behind the veil that hangs over the period when the Earth was moonless though already inhabited by human life. We do not know the beginning; we can only enter the theater at what may have been the third or fourth act. Velikovsky begins with Hebrew cosmology to claim that, prior to Genesis, the Earth underwent earlier catastrophes and that, within human memory, there were seven such creations. These were "sun ages" to be identified with the "Moon, Saturn, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Mars" in that order, or are more appropriately "planet ages." He discussed these ages in Worlds in Collision as "The World Ages" and "The Sun Ages." Hence, his view is that each of the seven planets affected the Earth at some time in the remote past. As a support for this view beyond legendary religious and astrological texts, Velikovsky points to the days of the week. They are well known to represent the seven planets of ancient time ...
63. Proposed Variations on the Saturnian Configuration [Aeon Journal $]
... From: Aeon VI:1 (Feb 2001) Home¦ Issue Contents Proposed Variations on the Saturnian Configuration Tonny van Rhee, from Tessenderlo, Belgium, writes: The Configuration: The polar configuration theory proposed by David Talbott and Dwardu Cardona assumes that the planets Saturn, Venus, Mars, and Earth shared a common spin axis and that Earth's north pole was always pointing toward Saturn. The whole system moved in an orbit around the Sun, while the planets moved in an orbit around Saturn. The plane of this orbit is presumed to have formed an angle with the plane of Saturn's orbit around the Sun (probably because the Sun is needed to produce a crescent on the surface of Saturn). Various objections can be raised against this formation. Lynn Rose, for instance, has already shown that a system with its polar axis more or less perpendicular to its orbital plane is not likely. [99 The configuration requires that Earth would make exactly one revolution around Saturn while Saturn itself revolves once around the Sun. Otherwise east and west would slowly ...
64. Return to the Paelo-Saturnian Ssystem (Forum) [Aeon Journal $]
... From: Aeon VI:6 (Dec 2001) Home¦ Issue Contents Forum Return to the Paelo-Saturnian System Michael Bar-Ron From Jerusalem, Israel, writes: 1. Saturn I greatly appreciated Dwardu Cardona's thorough, respectful, and quality response to my previous letter, [38 as also his having published it in AEON. Serious and readable academic work is always a pleasure, even when I disagree with points made. I do, however, have a number of important questions on what Cardona offered. One general problem I find myself burdened with is the lack of an article that concisely tells the entire Saturnian story from beginning to end, especially one that would delineate the following: What actually was perceived by our early ancestors from the age of darkness [39 onwards; What was actually-- that is physically-- happening in the world during this time; What astronomical and geological events were taking place to cause the phenomena described. If such an article has not yet been written, I'm sure the readers of this periodical would appreciate such a venture ...
65. The Rites Of Moloch [Kronos $]
... same Chiun contained in Amos.(38) Jerome interpreted the star of Chiun asLucifer(39) which is popularly believed to have stood for Venus. This was accepted by Velikovsky(40) since, in his scheme, the Israelites were supposedly set free from Egyptian bondage by the intervention of a close Venerian approach. It would therefore have been understandable had the Israelites carried an image of the Venerian star in their subsequent wandering through the desert. As Martin Sieff correctly informed us, however, Chiun was the Assyrian name for Saturn, the same as the very Hebrew Khivan (or Kewan).(41) So also David Talbott.(42) The question Velikovskian scholars should now ask is: What were the Israelites doing running about the desert with the image of the Saturnian star in their tabernacle? X So much for Chiun- but what about Moloch who was enshrined in the very same tabernacle with him? According to Sieff, Moloch was a synonym of the planetary god Jupiter whom he calls "patron of Israel".(43) ...
66. The Saturn Thesis (Part 3) [Aeon Journal $]
... From: Aeon IV:6 (May 1997) Home¦ Issue Contents The Saturn Thesis (Part 3) An In-Depth Interview with David Talbott-- (Continued) AEON: Before we go on, for the sake of our new readers, you should perhaps begin by giving us a summary of your hypothesis, and then, hopefully, an update on recent developments. Talbott: The Saturn theory is a reconstruction of planetary history, based on a universal memory. In an epoch remembered as the Age of the Gods, the Earth participated dynamically in an unusual planetary system never imagined by modern astronomy. The first layers of the historical argument for the Saturn theory rest on certain principles everyone can agree on. We know that ancient sky gazers incessantly drew pictures of cosmic powers. Hence, if the hypothesized planetary configuration once towered over the world, it is inconceivable that pictures of these spectacular forms would be missing. Such images should, in fact, dominate the early layers of ancient symbolism. What I am urging is a systematic testing of the ...
67. Child of Saturn (Part III) [Kronos $]
... From: Kronos Vol. VII No. 3 (Spring 1982) Home¦ Issue Contents Child of Saturn (Part III) Dwardu Cardona Copyright (C) 1982 by Dwardu Cardona 12. The Mahadevi It was Artur Isenberg who presented the best case for the identification of a particular Hindu deity as the proto-planet Venus of Worlds in Collision. His choice was the most obvious one- and it is puzzling how Velikovsky, who misidentified so many other Indic deities as Venus,(1) missed it. The candidate in question is Devi, the goddess par excellence.(2) This is not to say that the identification is not problematical. In fact, the problems connected with Devi are precisely those that beset Venerian deities of other nations. To that we shall come anon. But first a few points raised by Isenberg's identification require some clarification. "Devi" is often used, even by the Hindus themselves, as the proper name of this particular goddess. But actually "devi", the feminine of "deva", merely means " ...
68. The Saturn Myth: Contents [The Saturn Myth] [Books]
... [ Texts Home A reinterpretation of rites and symbols illuminating some of the dark corners of primordial society. Dust Cover: Intrigued by Velikovsky's claim that Saturn was once the pre-eminent planetary god, David Talbott resolved to examine its mythical character. "I wanted to know,", he wrote, "if ancient sources had a coherent story to tell about the planet... I had no inkling of the spectacular tale hidden in the chronicles. In this startling re-interpretation of age-old symbolism Talbott argues that the "Great God" or "Universal Monarch" of the ancients was not the sun, but Saturn, which once hung ominously close to the earth, and visually dominated the heavens. Talbott's close textual and symbolic analysis reveals the fundamental themes of Saturn imagery and proves that all of them-- including the "cosmic ship", the "island at the top of the world", the "eye of heaven" and "the revolving temple" were based on celestial observations in the northern sky. In addition he shows how such diverse symbols ...
69. Humbaba [Kronos $]
... , the wings on the caduceus symbolized a whirling motion and not flight.(25) Whirling signifies rotation (as on an axis, itself symbolized by the rod of the caduceus) and not revolution (as in an orbit). Thus the symbolic meaning of the caduceus' serpents as Mercury's "racing feats" around the Sun cannot be accepted. The caduceus, with its whirling motion, evolved from an earlier symbol which depicted the Axis Mundi (26) As I have already indicated elsewhere, the Axis Mundi belonged to Saturn.(27) Humbaba's comparison with Tlaloc is valid. Tlaloc, however, was, among other things, the Aztec god of rain. So was Kronos and so was Ea. These last two have long been identified as manifestations of the planet Saturn, an identification that de Santillana and von Dechend themselves uphold.(28) In the case of Humbaba, these writers discarded Saturn for the same reason they discarded Venus and Jupiter. Thus, to them, "Jupiter... would never make a convincing lord ...
... 4- the planets are ranked in order of their distance from the sun, from the most distant to the closest. Col. 5- the planets are ranked in order of their distance from the earth, from the most distant to the closest. Col. 6- the planets are ranked in order of the degree of the inclination of their orbits to the ecliptic, from the greatest to the smallest inclination. Table I Name as Listed Classical Identity Apparent Magnitude Distance from Sun Distance from Earth Inclination to Ecliptic 1. Kruno Saturn 5 1 1 3 2. Aphrodit Venus 1 4 5 2 3. Aris Mars 3 3 4 4 4. Zeus Jupiter 2 2 2 5 5. Ermis Mercury 4 5 3 1 n studying the four columns 3 through 6 it seems apparent that, based on the physical criteria employed in arriving at them, no clear and distinct order exists in the way the planets have been listed in the book. Table H, which contains four paired lists matching the planetary order as given by Enoch with the planetary order obtained ...
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