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51. Velikovsky & Saturnists & the Gods [SIS Internet Digest $]
... :1 Home¦ Issue Contents Newsgroups: talk.origins Velikovsky& Saturnists& the Gods From: Tim Thompson, firstname.lastname@example.org Date: 23 Sep 1995 23:51:56 GMT Ian Tresman writes:[...> Why identify a god with what appears to be an> insignificant point of light in the sky.. unless there were> times when they planets where not as insignificant as they> are now. This one point strikes to the very heart of Velikovskian thinking, and is the major motivation for the Saturn Myth. These notions absolutely require that the behaviour of the gods as described in myth precisely reconstruct the true dynamic behaviour of the celestial objects associated with them. However, the question that Tresman asks is strictly 20th century, and ignores that fact that myths and legends were not created by people who were likely to think anything at all like the way we do. These "mytho-historical" paradigms, like the Saturn Myth, and Velikovsky's "theory" can be immediately rejected as illogical at the very core, precisely because there ...
52. "Let There be Light" [Kronos $]
... God" is alluded to as "Elohim." Biblical concordances often note that "the word [Elohim" is "the plural of a lost singular."(2) The singular, or synonym, of "Elohim," however, is hardly lost; it is merely "El" or "Eloah."(3) The Phoenician scholar Sanchoniathon, as quoted by Philo of Byblos, identified the Canaanite El with the Greek god called Kronos,(4) which is also the Greek name for the planet Saturn. W.F. Albright equated El with the Assyro-Babylonian Shamash,(5) which is likewise an alternate name for the planet Saturn.(6) Heidel also tell us that "Cronos [Saturn is called El by the Phoenicians."(7) In Job 22:12-14, El is associated with Eloah,(8) while Morgenstern tells us that "in this role of the all-knowing god El seems to have much in common with the Babylonian deity, Enki-Ea, the all-wise one."(9) As ...
53. On Saturn At the North Pole [Aeon Journal $]
... From: Aeon I:6 (1988) Home¦ Issue Contents On Saturn At the North Pole Lynn E. Rose Northernism, as I understand it, is the view that Saturn-- perhaps along with some other planet-sized body or bodies-- was at one time permanently situated directly over the north rotational pole of Earth. Frankly, I think that the whole idea of Saturn hovering over the north pole is rather implausible. I am of course willing to listen, if anybody ever comes up with a set of radically new physical principles of the sort that it would apparently take to make the northernist models viable, but as of now I continue to think of all such models as physically unworkable and as historically unsupported. That ought to be enough for me to say about the matter. People ought to realise that I am simply not a northernist, and they ought to stop talking about me as if I were a northernist. But they do not. What they seem to take as evidence of my alleged northernism is my paper entitled " ...
54. The Genie Of The Pivot [Kronos $]
... From: Kronos Vol. X No. 1 (Fall 1984) Home¦ Issue Contents The Genie Of The Pivot Roger Ashton Copyright (c) 1984 by Roger Ashton ABSTRACT: Investigation of the links between gods and planets suggests a connection between Saturn and the Celestial Pole. This can be inferred from Greek and Roman myths. The same can be repeatedly extracted from materials included in the later compendia of Hindu myths. Sufficient evidence of this sort can be amassed to warrant serious consideration of the proposition that Saturn at the Celestial Pole was the central theme of myth many millennia ago. The correctness of this reconstruction of myth depends upon the total context of mythical metaphors, symbols, emblems and upon a quantitative bias in mythical material which supports the reconstruction. This context is, in turn, part of the greater context of objective terrestrial and human history. What archaeology reveals to have been omitted from the transmitted record of human affairs is of the utmost significance. 1. The Missing Millennia The Egyptians kept records of their kings from predynastic times onwards. Through ...
55. Ancient Knowledge of Jupiter's Bands and Saturn's Rings [Kronos $]
... No. 3 (Feb 1977) Home¦ Issue Contents Ancient Knowledge of Jupiter's Bands and Saturn's Rings Alfred de Grazia Copyright© 1975 by Alfred de Grazia. (This article is one of 22 essays contained in an Anthology presented to Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky on December 5, 1975, in honor of Dr. Velikovsky and the 25th anniversary of Worlds in Collision; it is our hope to publish the Anthology in its entirety- The Ed.) With a mind to the present Pioneer explorations of the neighborhoods of planets Jupiter and Saturn, an article by Thomas Taylor (of Walworth)-- published in the Classical Journal of 1819-- ought to be reviewed. Taylor was a renowned Platonist and his article was entitled, "On the Coincidence between the Belts of the Planet Jupiter and the Fabulous Bonds of Jupiter the Demiurgus."(1) There, quoting passages of the neo-Platonist Proclus (c.410-85 A.D.), On the Timaeus of Plato and On the Theology of Plato, Taylor points out "that Jupiter the Demiurgus is said by ancient ...
56. Saturnists Play Marbles [SIS Internet Digest $]
... come across something entirely new? If so, what? Dwardu Cardona Replies: In my case, mostly the same old TYPE of marbles with only SLIGHT differences. BUT, now and then, an entirely new kind of marble- a real gem. As to what these gems are, I'll have to wait until I get more like them in order to be able to compare THEIR slight differences and what these might entail. Eric Douma Asks: Has all mythology been already considered in one way or another with regard to the Saturn theory, or is there still mythological and/or legendary material out there that has never been checked as to its relevancy or consistency with the Saturn theory? Dwardu Replies: I can only speak for myself. No- not "all mythology" has yet been considered in regard to the Saturn theory. Yes- in MY case, there is still an awful lot of mythological material that has not yet been checked (or not checked well enough). Ev Cochrane Adds: I would agree with Dwardu here. While ...
57. Solar System Studies (Part 2) [Aeon Journal $]
... ice can reach 60 south latitude. Deposited strata of sandstone and limestone, which were ancient sea bottoms as found on land, may be thousands of meters thick. Beds of ooze at the bottoms of the oceans are surprisingly thin and seem to contradict the uniformitarian assumption of eons-long deposition of crustacean skeletal remains. This is an area which needs further study, and some of the peripheral and extant theories will be discussed later in this section. Earth has a powerful magnetic field which, though weaker than those of the giants Jupiter and Saturn, is comparable to the fields of Uranus and Neptune, both of which are much larger planets than Earth. Earth's magnetic field is mostly but not entirely dipole in nature. If this field is generated within its liquid outer core by rotating electrical currents, it follows that the solid core spin axis must be aligned with Earth's magnetic field axis. It might be expected that Earth's magnetic axis and its spin axis would also be aligned, but they are not and appear to have been wrenched apart. The northern magnetic pole is ...
58. The Great Father [The Saturn Myth] [Books]
... --- >> II The Great Father Anyone attempting to trace the Saturn legend must reckon with the primordial god-figure whom ancient races celebrate as "the great father," and who is said to have first organized the heavens and founded the antediluvian kingdom of peace and plenty, the "Golden Age." While few of us today could locate Saturn in the starry sphere, the earliest astral religions insist that the planet-god was once the all-powerful ruler of heaven. But paradoxically, they also declare that he resided on earth as a great king. He was the father both of gods and men. This dual character of the great father has been the subject of a centuries-long, but unresolved debate. Was he a living ancestor subsequently exaggerated into a cosmic divinity? Or was he originally a celestial god whom later myths reduced to human proportions? For an explanation of the great father researchers look to such varied powers as the solar orb, an esteemed tribal chief, or an abstract "vegetation cycle." Almost uniformly ignored is the connection of the ...
59. On Comets and Kings [Aeon Journal $]
... for Tlapallan, the land of plenty, promising to return and reinstitute his kindly creed on some future anniversary of the day of his departure." (72) Here it must be said that Mesoamerican culture is not alone in ascribing its cultural achievements to the designs of some early ruler, one virtually indistinguishable from the gods. As the first king and culture hero of Mexican tradition Quetzalcoatl conforms to a universal archetype: that of the primeval king. There are countless examples of this figure, of which the Greek Kronos, Latin Saturn, Iranian Yima, Hebrew El, and Chinese Huang-ti are among the most familiar. As we have documented elsewhere, it is possible to identify a celestial prototype for each of these legendary figures: namely, the planet Saturn. (73) Each of these primeval kings, in fact, was identified with the planet Saturn by sources indigenous to their respective cultures. This fact alone offers us a powerful clue with regards to Quetzalcoatl's original identity. The religious rites associated with Quetzalcoatl also suggest a relationship to Saturn. Diego Duran ...
60. The Road to Saturn (Excerpts from an Autobiographical Essay) [Aeon Journal $]
... From: Aeon I:3 (1988) Home¦ Issue Contents The Road to Saturn (Excerpts from an Autobiographical Essay) Dwardu Cardona PART II I 1977 saw the publication of George Michanowsky's The Once and Future Star. In this work Michanowsky maintained that the rise of civilization and the origin of religious beliefs owe their impetus to the sudden appearance of a bright light in the sky. But the similarity to the theory of Saturn's flare-up ends there. Michanowsky's theory was based on the remains of a supernova, in the form of a pulsar, discovered in 1968 by the Molonglo Radio Observatory in Australia. The pulsar was detected in the southern constellation Vela and thus received the popular designation Vela X. The stellar explosion that gave birth to this pulsar occurred somewhere between 1300 and 1500 light years away and must therefore have appeared in Earth's sky for many months as a prominent light that might even have shone as a smaller second sun by day. Searching in Sumerian documents for a possible reference to this ancient stellar outburst, Michanowsky believed he found it in a ...
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