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51. Sweeney responds to Crowe (Letter) [SIS C&C Review $]
... a number of occasions, yet nowhere does he offer any evidence to support it. The reader is just expected to take John's word for it. John bases a large part of his criticism not on the contents of The Pyramid Age (which is barely mentioned) but on another book of mine on the Neo-Assyrians and Persians. Yet even here he has me saying something I didn't- and then criticises me for it! He claims that I have to 'explain why so many Hebrew and Babylonian texts referring to the growth of the Persian Empire and its eventual conquest of Assyria and Babylonia are simply wrong' and thereby gives the impression that I had denied the existence of the Persian (or perhaps the Assyrian and Babylonian) Empire. Again this completely misrepresents my opinion. The Medes and the Persians really did exist and they did conquer Mesopotamia (though here it's conventional chronology that has the problem). For me, the Neo-Assyrian kings are the Persians ruling in Mesopotamia, under their Assyrian titles. John says my identification of the Persians and the Neo-Assyrians is 'based ...
52. The Chronology of Lyres [Aeon Journal $]
... establishes an impressive threefold sequence of civilizations-- (1) Hyksos/Old-Hittites, (2) 18th Dynasty/Mitanni/Kassites/Empire Hittites, (3) Middle-Assyrians from Egypt to India-- because group three immediately follows the Mitanni and the 18th Dynasty (group two), and both are well represented not only by written sources but also by archaeological strata in Africa (Egypt-Hyksos in Tell el Daba) and Asia alike. This epigraphical-stratigraphical sequence, thus, allows for a chronological network stretching from the Nile to the Persian Gulf and beyond in the South-East and to Anatolia and beyond in the North-East. In addition, any excavation site with strata for Hyksos and/or Mitanni and/or Middle-Assyrians will receive absolute dates for its pre-Hyksos strata as well as for its post-Middle-Assyrian strata also via the absolute date of the Amarna correspondence. The impact of the Amarna-date does not end there: Wherever one finds a Mitanni stratum the stratum right underneath has to be contemporary with the Hyksos if no sterile layers or other measures indicating a lapse of time can be ...
53. Greek Debt To Babylonians [SIS Internet Digest $]
... Democritus "who had spent some time in the East and his astronomic ideas were definitely Babylonian", p.444ff which discusses the famous Babylonian astronomer Kidinnu (fl. 379 BC), who some people have argued (apparently disproved) was the real discoverer of the precession before Hipparchus, and the Greek debt to Kidinnu and his kind. See also Vol. 2, pp. 295ff. for Hipparchus's use of Babylonian records and 335ff for more general borrowings. Another accessible source is A. T. Olmstead: "History of the Persian Empire" (University of Chicago Press, 1948/1970); pp. 195-213 discusses the achievements of Chaldaean astronomers and Greek borrowing; pp. 328-342 the same and especially Democritus. Slightly more up to date- Jack Lindsay: "Origins of Astrology" (London: Frederick Muller, 1971), Ch. 4 "The Greeks and the East", pp. 63-89 covers much the same stuff. From memory (not to hand), the same material again is covered in B. L. van der ...
54. Problems for Rohl's New Chronology [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... 7th century, had never heard of iron swords? His weapons are entirely of bronze, though iron is used for tools. 2. How does Rohl explain the tradition recorded by Pausanias (iii, 3, 7& iii, 11, 8) that swords of iron were first seen in the Peloponnese during the Spartan war with Tegea, in the reign of Anaxandrides- which Rohl himself places around 650 BC? Genealogies: 1. Rohl claims that the Spartan king-lists, which show 16 kings between the Dorian invasion and the Persian War, list 16 generations. Yet Herodotus specifically tells us that these were all kings of Sparta. Is Rohl trying to suggest that every single king who reigned at Sparta was a son of the preceding king? 2. How does Rohl explain the fact that genuine genealogies (as opposed to king-lists), such as the one linking Pythagoras to Hippasos of Samos, separate the time of the Dorian invasion from the Persian War by only seven generations- about 175 years, allowing for 25 years per generation? (see V ...
55. The Pyramid Age [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... Emmet has undoubtedly put a lot of effort into the work he has produced. We are all interested in the common goal of a viable revision. The roots of extreme revisionism are very much Velikovsky, and the same pleasure in upending the establishment version shines brightly through. 'The Pyramid Age' is, I suppose, a logical progression from accepting the validity of Ramses II and His Time and Peoples of the Sea. Sweeney was clearly not persuaded by the arguments of the Glasgow chronologists, and certainly not by orthodox historians. The Persian period, and the Ptolemaic, have not featured greatly in other revised chronologies and Sweeney (also Heinsohn) score points in that respect. Minds have simply not travelled the same corridors of imagination (at least, not for too long). They have opened doors and entered rooms beyond what seems to be 'reasonable'. The bounds of possibility have been stretched... and stretched. Velikovsky's Ages in Chaos remains the inspiration behind numerous revisions of ancient history. Many of these are biblically orientated, sometimes intractably so. ...
56. The Autumn Meeting [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... civilisation, found immediately beneath 4th century BC Buddhist buildings, did not end in 1700 BC, leaving no further trace. Alexander the Great's conquest of Asia was not over ruins of a long departed civilisation but the flourishing Achaemenid empire. Asia east of the Ganges and Mesoamerica did not mysteriously lag 2,000 years behind the ancient Near East in their cultural development. Heinsohn had just returned from a visit to Armenia which had a richly documented history during three periods, including a role as sister ruling nation with both the Median and Persian empires. Excavations had indeed shown three strata but due to other dating systems these were described as earlier periods and the expected layers are considered to be absent. Their archaeologists, trained in our way of thinking, are prepared to discard their glorious past when kings were powerful and could provide vast armies to protect the Persian empire, in favour of a mistakenly forced conclusion that they must have been living in caves for hundreds of years during this period. Similarly in Cappadocia to the east, another people with a history richly associated ...
57. The Two Sargons and Their Successors (PART ONE) [Aeon Journal $]
... subject. Heinsohn, of course, is not the first to offer such a drastic reconstruction and, human nature being what it is, he will not be the last. In the past, none of these historical reconstructions, from that of Immanuel Velikovsky to the Glasgow Chronology, has withstood the test of scholarly analysis. The question here is: Will Heinsohn's? Six major periods, about which volumes have been written, come under the direct influence of Heinsohn's hypothesis. These are the Akkadian, Amorite, Assyrian, Chaldean, Persian, and Sumerian civilizations. According to Heinsohn, three of these constitute ghost empires, their pseudo-history having been compiled from the replicated events of the other three. Thus Heinsohn argues that the Sumerians were actually the Chaldeans, the Akkadians were the Assyrians, and the Amorites were the Persians. (1) In an attempt to test this hypothesis, Charles Ginenthal selected a portion of Akkadian history and compared it with what, in Heinsohn's scheme, would be the parallel Assyrian version. What he unearthed in a quick exploration (2 ...
58. Joseph and Imhotep (Letters) [Catastrophism & Ancient History Journal $]
... From: Catastrophism and Ancient History XIV:2 (July 1992) Home¦ Issue Contents Letter Joseph and Imhotep John W. Hand& R.M. Porter Dear Sir: Regarding Mr. Jesse E. Lasken's comments on my identification of Joseph with Imhotep, the following rejoinder is offered. Lasken calls attention to inscriptions of the architect of the Persian period, Khnum-ab-ra, with which I am ignorant. Since my dating is dependent on radiocarbon analysis (uncorrected for tree-ring matching which I believe to be flawed), it would interest me greatly to learn how many generations intervened between Imhotep and Khnum-ab-ra. If the number is on the order of 60 or less, then this would give weight to raw radiocarbon dates whereas eighty or more would give the tree-ring correction an edge. As for Jacob not being an Egyptian, I call attention to the time that he spent in Egypt proper, the fact that he was mourned by the Egyptians at his death and that the funeral cortege was perceived the Canaanites as being Egyptian. If one lived in Egypt, one an ...
59. Society News [SIS C&C Workshop $]
... sediments, together with the submergence of ancient sites and the change of the main coastal route from Egypt to Syria and Mesopotamia, lead to the following conclusions:- Due to a slipping of the Sinai subplate, the western bar of the Bardawil Lagoon was elevated as a low ridge with certain points, such as Mount Cassius, up to 30 metres above sea level. The marine sediments which were thus elevated were originally laid down about 4000 BC, and the oldest traces of human activity in this area are pot sherds from the Persian Period (incorrectly given as about 700 BC).- It is inferred that the elevation occurred some time between 1500 and 700 BC. At this stage the older coastal route from Egypt went from Qantara, along the southern shores of the Bardawil Lagoon to El-Arish (Rynocorura).- After the elevation, between Persian and Mamluk times (1500 AD), a more northerly route was used from Tanis and Pelusium, through Mount Cassius and Ostrakina to El-Arish.- Fresh tectonic activity took place during the Roman period, around ...
60. Forum [SIS C&C Review $]
... us to complete a "Glasgow" model for Egyptian history in order to reveal the fallacies inherent in dating the XIXth Dynasty to the late 7th/6th centuries. We believe it has already been amply demonstrated that this placement of the XIXth Dynasty is not consistent with the archaeological and historical evidence. If Professor Rose believes that it is, then he must show, for example, exactly how the Sa´te Pharaohs of the conventional XXVIth Dynasty can be removed from that period, when they are firmly linked to the preceding Ethiopian and following Persian periods (6), a task not tackled by Velikovsky. To point to the major difficulties in Ramses II and His Time we do not have to hurriedly write an alternative Theses, although much further work on, and discussion of, the "Glasgow Chronology" will appear as and when it is ready.* [* Anyone wishing to see the kind of model that could be developed for a revised chronology with the XIXth Dynasty in the 8th century might turn to Donovan Courville's The Exodus Problem and Its Ramifications (2 ...
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